So thank you. Uh All of you for, for joining us today. It's uh it's a true pleasure to uh to spend the next 25 minutes with uh all of you ladies. So my name is Ingrid Gonzalez.And uh I just wanted to share a little bit about my background. Uh I grew up in the mountain in the south of France. I'm from a very poor family, very international background. Italian and Spanish. Uh and I grew up in a town of 500 people. There were more animal than human beings, but with determination and grit, uh I graduated from a masters degree in entrepreneurship uh from one of the top business schools in Europe. So I've been spending 17 years in tech work in three different countries of all the largest tech company in the world, IBM Dell Microsoft. And I've been working at Google uh as a Google Cloud sales director in New York uh for the past four years. But today I'm here to present two amazing organization. One is Google and the other one is Positive Planet. Last year was one of the saddest uh year in decades. People were dying. People were suffering, people were isolated and poetry become an important topic here in America and everywhere in the world. So I decided to jump and sign up for a new challenge and contribute to build a better world and a more inclusive world.

So became the president and the chairwoman of Positive Planet USA, 22 years old nonprofit organization that helped people living in poverty through entrepreneurship. So our first project is called woman Accelerator app to help women to leave poverty and create their own job.

So if you want to support us, please visit Positive Planet years.org. And I'm really looking forward to the conversation today. Thank you.

Well, wonderful. I guess uh if we're going by order of jumped in the next would be uh Miss Lauren Hasso or Hassan, sorry, I keep messing it

up, right? You wanna make it fancier than it is. It's just Hassan. Uh Thanks Lacey. So I'm Lauren Hassan. Uh I wear two hats as well. Uh By day, I work remotely from my home in Dallas for a Silicon Valley payments company where I am a principal software engineer and I'm the architect of our voice payment system, our messaging capabilities, our EBI Business, portable analytics, you name it. Uh I'm I'm in charge of it also was previously in charge of all of application security. Uh What I'm more known for is being the founder of developer, which is a, a techno technology platform that helps women in tech, get ahead, stand out and earn, earn more money in their tech careers. I not only work with individual women uh and have a best selling book that shows them step by step how to get ahead, build your brand and, and, and build your value. Uh But I also have an award-winning course that helps women negotiate anywhere from 30 all the way up to $80,000 more in a single negotiation. Um I also work with universities to get ahead of the opportunity gap in tech and wage gap before it even starts.

And then I also work uh with tech technology companies to help their leaders identify and build their own bench of women in in tech um and then help the women in tech at, at corporations at scale uh build their value and rise into leadership positions.

So, so everything you, you two, at least at the start, you're just doing everything. I'm sure we're gonna get even more everything when it comes down to uh Diana as well. And then of course with Jen, we doctor Jen Welter. Come on. Uh Diana, you're still on mute.

Awesome. Hi, everybody. Nice to be here. Firstly, it's raining cats and dogs where I am. So I I apologize in advance for any, any noise, the rain just it just started like this. So uh but but nice to be here and thank you all for joining to everybody that's joined us online, you know, uh you know, we appreciate you guys joining us. So I'm Diana, I'm originally from Nigeria where I grew up in the UK, where I studied law and then criminology because I always wanted to be a judge. And somehow I found myself, you know, in, uh technology and project management. So I spent, you know, the last 18 years working between technology, you know, and financial services and, you know, won many hearts. You know, I've been a project manager, I've worked in the PM O SPACE. I've been a business manager, I've been AC O chief of staff. It's just been very interested as I've evolved, you know, in my career. Um More recently, I was the global head of strategy uh for marketing and communications, uh and people for CGM nine, who's a consulting uh organization with 207,000 employees. And right now I am the chief listener and the CEO of C uh healthcare services and, you know, in our portfolio, we do home care, healthcare services, healthcare solutions as well as um advocacy. I also am privileged.

I use the word privileged to sit on the board of Positive Planet with the amazing Ingrid Gonzalez. Uh you know, she's our president and, you know, I'm on the board. I, I sit on a few other boards so clearly something is going on there. One of the ones that I'm proud of as well is I read, which is part of the adopter school program that I sit on actually in my local church as well. So it's a pleasure to be here. Nice to meet all of you.

And finally, last, but certainly not least, um, the literal groundbreaker or line breaker is the best way I could describe her. Uh, Doctor Jen Welter.

Well, thank you all for having me. I am probably the only one who is not officially in tech though. I am in some tech because technically I'm in a few video games. So I don't know if that counts. Um because you can find me both in coach Chen's worlds in Minecraft and in Madden as the first female um head coach. So the first female playable character and to play myself, um but I am best known as the first female to have coached in the national football league with the Arizona Cardinals in 2015 long time women's football vet before that um with a master's degree in sports psychology and a phd in psychology.

So whether it's on the field or in the game, I just mess with minds for a living. And so have jumped into a lot of different conversations on how we could change socialization around different things. Um And how we think about inclusion um and can change the narratives you'll see back there. That is actually my smile on a bag of lays. Um And so I really could be found anywhere from video games to potato chip bags and always a disruptor. So, you know, if Lauren is the developer, I am probably the disruptor or the instigator.

I know exactly who to look to or look at least look for if I hear crunching in a movie theater. Right. And then I'll see you there.

Yeah, that's mostly the tackling kind though. So, you know, you probably know I was gonna be there if you heard the crunching.

Well, um, and finally, I guess there's myself. Hi. Uh I'm your moderator for today's panel. My name is Stacy Devino. Uh By day, I am a principal engineer uh in charge of all things fun uh at Stitch Fix with regards to android engineering. But I also on the side, uh am everything from a woman who code evangelists uh Intel innovator. Um I just finished four years on the effectively the board of Google developer communities, North America in two years as uh the leader for North America and Canada for the women tech makers organization from the court community side. Um And I also organize a few meetups and uh do a lot of work interna on an international level with women's advocacy in tech and diversity in tech uh advocacy groups. So, um if you have any questions, oh, and I totally forgot I do a lot of tech speaking. So if you would see me show up in various places, uh I've, I do everything from kind of career talks to tech, deep dives down to uh kernel initialization in Linux. So you can imagine uh the scope of things.

But I also wanted to really just say this is an amazing and diverse panel of women leaders in various facets and all with different backgrounds. We have everyone from deep tech to the business side coming in from law and also just coming in from a totally unexpected place. Doctor Jen Welter, I, I had the privilege of meeting you. Uh Almost, what was this? It's almost been 10 years, isn't it? It, it's been about 10 years. Um And it's just amazing, the facets and we met through tech. So it's amazing to think about the facets of what leadership is. And even though this is a women tech uh conference, just to think about that leadership kind of expands beyond the tech boundaries and how you find yourself here doesn't matter where you came from. And to that degree, I wanted to ask, how did you find yourself in a formalized leadership role? And we're not gonna necessarily like take turns whoever wants to speak out first. Um But I do want to make sure each person has time to be able to, to give their comment on this. How did you find yourself in a formalized leadership role? What was that step like? Uh was it, it's always scary, right? But I wanna kind of hear a little bit of your story,

I'll jump. Um So I just wasn't sure if you were to call on anyone. So for me, um I just, I just pulled up a chair and sat down at the table. Um It wasn't that anyone over and over again in my life. Everyone thinks that someone's gonna tap you on the shoulder and say, hey, now you're ready to be a leader for me. That's never how it's worked. It's always been OK. Something needs to get done. I see the need and the opportunity I sit down and I get it done, whether that was in technical leadership roles in my career where I was just going and leading the way to get a project done or move, you know, a new, new product through um all the way to developer. Uh you know, I, you'll never be ready. Um I've never been fully ready. Um It's kind of like you build the airplane as you, as you uh fly it. Um And so for me, it was just taking that first step and taking that action, recognizing opportunity, not waiting for someone to tap you on the shoulder or give you a chair which is going up and sitting down and, and owning your space.

I love that. And, you know, I'll echo that in the sense that I think I've had a little bit of both. I've, you know, I've had to pull up my chair and sit down, I've had to, you know, build the chair myself most times and I've definitely had opportunities. I've had, I have to say much as I've had bad managers, I've also had some amazing managers, you know, and um I will never forget, for example, uh one of my, my previous um leaders when I was in Morgan Stanley, we share that Lauren and he always will push me, you know, Michael Horton, push me and nominate me and make me do stuff and it's all, it's kind of like what you just said, do it afraid.

And so I've definitely had those instances where I've been fortunate enough, uh where I always get nominated for stuff, I always get pushed forward. But there are times when, you know, I've had to build a chair. And, um I think if I look a lot around my career and some of the work that I've done outside of work, especially uh in advocacy, you know, you walking on some of the boards, you know, it's literally just been creating things most of the time from scratch, you know, realizing that there's a need and just creating it.

And, you know, I think if you could ask my husband, he will tell you that I'm a people encourager, you know, you come and tell me an idea, I'll make you do it, I'll make you style, I'll push you, I'll check in on you and, and that's just some of the things that I found. But from a leadership perspective, I think it's definitely been interesting when you've brought your chair to the table and, and then trying to make that change, right? Because you brought the chair. So, you know, people maybe weren't expecting you. And so success is really the only way forward, you know, and I'll stop there so that, you know, maybe, uh, Doctor Jan and Ingrid can jump in.

Um, I guess I'll go. Um, so for me, I was always a leader in the way that I played football. Um I, I never was the, you know, the huddle caller or the captain. Um, because I always felt like I had so much more to do in terms of what I could contribute and wanted to be the very best that I could be. Now, if somebody asked me that was different. Absolutely. I'll help you, I'll give you whatever you want. But for me, it was the energy that I could bring how I played and also seeing that the game had so far to go and could be innovated. Um I, I say that the promise I made when I started playing football was to step up to every ch challenge that the game put in my way because at that time, there wasn't a future or a place for spa or space for women necessarily to aspire to. There were no women coaching in the national football league. There wasn't a US national team any of those. So we had to put our heads down and play to the very best that we could and then step up to challenges and, and prepare ourselves. Like for me getting my masters and my phd was about how I could create a unique value proposition to the sport. Could I take this practical experience?

That was unique being one of the best in the world and also put it with the theoretical knowledge so that I would always have value. And so for me, that's always been the case of just how do I add value to this situation? How do I look at it differently and how do I make sure that whatever, you know, bench, I pull up or locker room, I go into that, I'm adding value. And um the way that I transitioned into the men's world was actually by playing. So yet again, I was on the same field, doing the same thing, taking the same hits and I earned their respect, which then gave me the opportunity to increasingly um not only lead in how I played, but to bring my voice and perspectives to the sport as a coach and then as an innovator or disruptor.

Wonderful. Um Yeah. So in my case, iii I think I have a, I wanted to bring a, a AAA different angle because I think that as you know, like working in tech starting 17 years ago, I was most of the time for not saying 100% of the time, the only woman in the room. So definitely you have to have a seat at the table and take it. Uh As a woman, you have to perform, over perform some, it was not enough. Uh But definitely uh thinking big and be bold. Uh something uh I wanted to share with the audience and believing in yourself. It's absolutely critical to be a career. So, very early on, uh I, I started to uh create a plan. I had a vision what I wanted to go and once you have that clear goal and, and you need, and you were able to articulate uh your, your career goal, uh I was able to raise a hand and uh asked for people around me to mentor me to help me. Uh And definitely my first mentor when I ST IBM helped me to shape my career plan and uh and, and all these years, um I, I learned how to raise a hand and ask for help.

Uh This one led me to my first leadership role uh when I was at Microsoft, when I met this amazing woman named Aloha, a as, as a General manager of Microsoft. And I was, you know, very articulate and purposeful about what I wanted to accomplish. What was my value? What could I bring to an organization? Why me, why now and then she uh she decided to give me a hand and I say, OK, we are going to give you a chance in grade and since then. I mean, uh uh uh amazed by uh every time I raise a hand was a man or a woman. I find allies in the room or allies in my network and I create a very strong network uh in order to be able to support my career growth.

Wow. I'm hearing some amazing themes from these women that it is, it is very much mission driven and action oriented and a little bit about, well, really, you know, kind of the self-confidence starts with you, but it isn't just from you, you can find ways to magnify. And once you've talked a little bit, especially Ingrid about building your network and, and kind of that reaching out when it comes to leadership. What does bringing your whole self mean? That's really, you know, the premise of this lady leadership talk. What does bringing your whole self mean and whoever wants to chime in first? Absolutely do so,

uh um I can go on this one. So, you know, for me, it's, it's interesting because a lot of the situations that I'm in are, you know, just Xs and Os. Um it is being a football coach and yet there wasn't anybody that was leading who was like me. And so I got two really good pieces of advice. Um One was Terry Glenn who was giving me advice before I went to the Cardinals. And he said, Jen, the best advice I can give you is to be 100% authentic. If said, if you are exactly the same person there that you work here with us every day, those guys will absolutely love you. But if you're fake in any way, they will sense it and eat you alive. So I couldn't coach like someone else because there was no one else like me. And so I had to be confident enough to trust what had gotten me into the door and what had gotten me that far. Now, the other piece of advice I got was from Darryl Drake, who was the receiver's coach for the Cardinals. And he said, coach, I gotta ask you, what do you, what do you think you can bring to this game? And I was like, I don't know.

All right, like, uh, hopefully football and he's like, let me tell you old guys like me have been coaching longer than you've been alive. We're gonna know some more Xs and Os than you do. And that's ok. We can teach those to you. But what none of these dudes has on the staff is a phd and the psychology for these players is so important. Don't you dare leave that when you get in to those coaches meetings? Because you're the only one who has that insight and that you have more than any other person on this staff. And so it was interesting because some of the places and spaces they'll say just stay in your Lane. And that means, you know, just Xs and Os or this is this one little box that you fit in. And yet the people who have really pushed me to be my best self were the ones who said, don't you dare leave part of what makes you great at the door. And if we are talking diversity and inclusion and a different voice in the room, that means you owe it to the room to present all of the information that you have and the perspective and clarity that is uniquely yours,

incredibly powerful, really powerful. Anybody else like to comment what bringing your whole self actually means at least to you.

Yeah, iii I can follow um I think, you know, bringing my old self to, to the world and to companies. Uh It's really about a topic that is very dear to my heart is diversity, equity and inclusion. And uh for me, everywhere I go, uh it's extremely important to make sure that I have a voice and I execute that voice. And uh and for that, you have to lead by example. So I wanted to give you two examples. Last year was very challenging year uh for all of us. And uh I, I was not doing great. I was isolated, I was far from my family. Uh So I decided I, I went to hr I decided I made a decision to say, listen, I'm isolated in New York and I want to go back to Europe, I wanted to be close to my family because if I'm well, the people around me are going to be well and my team is going to do well. So I break the rule. I made the ask, I raised the hand and I said, this is what I need for me to be my whole self and to bring my best to my organization to Google and definitely my team. So I uh went through a very challenging process, but I did it. So I moved back to Europe six months. I was good. I was happy I was healthier. And then I bring that back to my organization back to my team with my full self.

And at the end of the day, we ended as the most and the top performing team in the United States. And uh and just wanted to say if I, if you definitely uh lead by example and show your team that they can do it because you do it and so that you can serve your, your community around you. The second thing I wanted to uh to share about bringing you all self diversity and, and it's we, we talk a lot about it, but then you have to lead by example and you have to make, take actions. So when I created my board of director at Planet, for me, it was nonnegotiable. I wanted to have a diverse board. And today I'm very proud to say that we have 50% of women and 50% of men. Same thing at Google. When I hire a new team member, I asked the human resource to bring me candidates that are diverse and they are coming from different backgrounds, different country. Because I believe, I truly believe what diversity equity inclusion bring to an organization in terms of performance and in terms of innovation. So let's uh make some action and, and this is the way I'm bringing my own self to a, to a the world I'm running.

And so building on the, the the raising your hand for what you need, you know, me bringing my whole self is not just taking care of my career. Um But, but investing in my whole self, whether that's my financial well being, whether that's my mental well being um and mental health, my, my physical health. Um I, you know, I talk, I in my, my book, I talk an entire chapter about all the different ways I invest in myself and it's not just my career, it's, it's in, in building my support network, both both at work and professionally. And then also personally, it's taking care of my health. Um you know, the better, the better health I am in personally, the better I show up at work. Um It, it, you know, it, it just, you take care of one area of your life and it spills over into others and then, you know, I also talk about it, I don't just do it but I talk about it. Not only, you know, with my developer at work and publicly, but I also make sure people at work know that, hey, you know, I'm learning to cook or I'm working out and taking time for that because part of the reason, you know, part of the part of the role of being a leader is making it ok for other people to do it too.

Um And I've been fortunate that I've had leaders who said, yeah, you know, I'm not available right now. I'm working out in the middle of the day and that made a real impact on me. And so my way of paying it forward is saying, hey, look, I am, I am also prioritizing myself, not just my professional self but my whole self.

So, you know, I echo what all the ladies have said. So when I think about, you know, bringing your whole self, you know, again, I think it goes back to what Dr Jen was talking about, you know, being yourself, being authentic, you know, you know, being that same person, don't be somebody else at play at work, you know, in any other sort of endeavors that you do.

So I think of three things, right? Um If you think of a boardroom, for example, you've earned the seat or you built the seat, you know, however you got to the boardroom, you're now in the boardroom, right? So I always sort of go by this, these rules which is challenge the status quo, speak up, you know, step out of your comfort zone to me. Those are the things that I do that I implement to bring my true self to the table. I mean, working with Ingrid, I'm sure she'll tell you, I'm not afraid to speak up in a room. You know, if I disagree with something, I'll say it, you know, as long as you do do it respectfully, you know, make sure that you don't just sit and set, you know, so that's to me what that means if, if, you know, we were talking about this, I think uh the other day, if you think that there's a lack of diversity at work, advocate for that, raise your hand, do that.

One of the things that I did was I created women at this round table in cap. I thought, you know, there's a lack of diversity at the senior levels. I created a group, then I uh instituted like a monthly hiring day where I insisted that the recruitment team along with the leaders actually hire certain number of women every day. This is a side and this is focused on gender diversity, but this is aside from the recruitment activities and exercises that we have to do. So, now we have a monthly, you know, gender diversity hiring day currently, you know, uh in, in camp J because I instituted that because I could see that, you know, perhaps we needed some guidance in terms of how we would focus in on that. So that's, that's what that means to me. It, it's not just talking the talk, but walking the work, I'm making sure that I'm showing that, you know, so I'm a caring person. I want to care about the team around me. I wanna be myself. I don't just want to, oh, I wanna be a tough lady. So, you know, you guys are afraid of me and that's it. But how are you doing today? Checking up on people, you know, a lot of people talk about my laughter. I love to laugh. I'm enthusiastic.

I'm happy. I bring that to the table as well. You know, just, you know, just being you because if you, if you build the sink, if you got invited to the boardroom, if you found your way through the, through the window, either way you're there now and make that voice count

it. It really stands out to me, especially that the theme here is about bringing your whole self inherently, brings trust and trust is how you actually gain loyalty and respect with the ability to speak honestly. And so trust is the avenue in which we can actually build up the morality and the code at which we like to work. Uh especially I would say in the tech world. Um because you can't do it all and you have no oversight and you don't even necessarily know the work that somebody else is doing and even for the ability to overlook it, that you actually need that trust in order to actually work effectively and to have teamwork and you as an example, end up becoming that leader in that role.

So it's, it's kind of uh it's really interesting to me how it, it's all around the same kind of themes, but how you get there and what it means to you are our individual and I love all of the different perspectives brought here today. So in, we don't have that much time left. So finally, I wanted to ask one last question, which is, where are you currently trying to level up? Where are you actually working on yourself on personal development?

All right, Diana, go ahead, please, please, please. OK. So um this year, uh I decided to invest in myself and uh I uh finally um decided to work with an executive coach. Uh because as I mentioned to all of you ladies, I think it was important. I mean, a point in my career where I have a voice and I want to make sure I communicate accordingly. I'm participating to events, I'm helping other women to raise and grow uh with me. Uh So, um it's uh it's, it's something that helped me a lot. Uh as you know, like English is not my first language. So I'm always a little bit uh scared to be in public speaking. So I had to like, really force myself to uh to do because I do know that I can uh share. I have a story, I have an expertise and experience I can serve over and others I don and I, I'm, I'm really ready to do that and to uh give a hand uh at my, at my turn. Uh So uh it's something that uh it's been uh I've been working on the, on the week days,

so I'll share too in a very interesting way. So I've been working on practicing a lot of listening, you know, uh I think, you know, as leaders, people talk about listening and you're expected to listen. But are you listening? Right, because, you know, the art of listening is hearing what wasn't said and I think, you know, more, more amongst other things, right? And more importantly for me also in, in, in the business that we're in, in home care and health care, right? That's a very crucial aspect of our lives, making sure that we can actually, you know, look after our clients, those people that put that trust in us. So that's something I've been working on it. So very little bit different. Uh But you're really just working on listening and really reading in between the lines and understanding what was not said, you know, what was left on the table, you know, so, so I could come back and look for how I can, you know, support where necessary. One of the things that I've been doing as well is really just studying ferociously, you know, uh Kenny Rogers, uh has a song and, you know, I apologize in advance because I'm going to sing the song, which is the gambler. And he said, if you're gonna play the game. Right. Right. You got you, if, if you're gonna play the game, you have to learn how to play the game.

So he said, you gotta learn, you gotta know when to hold, know when to hold them, know when to walk away, know when to run. You never count your money. When you're sitting at the table, there'll be time enough to count him when the deal is done. So learning, you know how to do all these different things, you know, in the different rooms that I'm privileged to be in. Knowing when to, to hold, right, knowing when to listen, knowing when to fold, knowing when to walk away. So I made sure that I really focus a lot on self development and just studying, you know, just so as much as I can. So I'm very much aware of my surroundings. And of course, last but not the least practicing self care. I have two young kids, you know, so it's very challenging at any. Right. But um making sure that I invest in myself and invest in some personal time, you know, but I thought I'll share those first three.

Well, you should also sing more in meetings because you have a great voice. So I think bringing your whole self into the meeting was what you just did and brought that whole voice uh because it was beautiful. Um You are so welcome. So I'll say kind of what I've been working up on leveling up with myself is um to actually think bigger than just the circle that I'm used to being in, which is like the world of football. Um And actually how some of these messages could, you know, go or empower, right? It's, it's not, you know, being literally the one woman doing something is unique in football at that time, but those lessons can be a lot bigger, right? Like being a, you know, winning in the boys club and some of that. So surrounding myself with great people who are doing disruptive things in other industries. Um And then looking at joining um and providing that alternative for some more um companies, I have joined a few boards which is fun um because I always am the one who sees things differently. Um And then I am looking at starting a nonprofit as well. Um because especially the stuff that we've been doing gridiron girls and empowering um girls through the sport of football, um We have to get bigger and that means I need people who know how to do those bigger things. I am great in the one on one.

But I lovingly tell people I should never be allowed to do evaluation on a company or even on myself because I played my football career for a dollar a game. So I need some other experts near me that will not allow me to do that anymore.

Good thing, good thing. Um I'm in your phone, Jen because I will, I will tell you to advocate for your, your value, never accept less than your worth. And um my, mine's a little different. I've really reached uh where I'm at, where I wanna be professionally. I reached, you know, my definition of success and I'm lucky that I've done it, you know, relatively early in life. The, the one thing and I looked at my life holistically. And so what's the one thing that I'm missing? And I, I gained a lot of weight along the way? Um And I'm not a healthy weight. And so about 22 years ago, I started a weight loss journey and I've so far lost £65. Um and I've got, I've got more to go. Um So right now I'm really focusing on my physical health and it's really been surprising to me how it's also translated to professional growth, relationship growth and really impacted. I mean, I was happy before and that, that was part of the reason I stay stuck at, at a heavier weight is I didn't realize how happy or how much happier I could be in, in all the different areas of my life. So, for me, um, you know, I, I'm taking the foot, foot off the gas on professional and really focusing on for, uh, personal front, um, and taking care of my health because I only get one body to take me through this entire life.

That's amazing. Everyone has a completely different facet. Um I can go with a little bit of my stuff. I've, I've actually been working a lot on soft skills and really developing into what is something that is not covered under anything is how to be a highly effective technical leader, especially from a higher standpoint. What it, what does it look like to have all of those systems in your head and be able to orchestrate uh large groups of people in a very technical way, not just from a managerial standpoint. Um And, and be able to kind of speak to both skills. Uh On another personal note, I am about 5.5 months pregnant. Uh You can't really tell in the camera because um and I already have a small child and it's really just been an amazing journey that I've been through in really figuring out prioritization and respecting. I'm, I've moved from being incredibly community oriented to now putting a little bit more back into my career and a little bit respecting what that is from community instead of just saying, OK, I have done all these great things to like empower uh all of these women and get them started and, and their things continuing.

But really refocusing to how to, how to actually create wealth in underserved communities. Um Because to me, a lot of social issues, a lot of other issues are solved by avenues of wealth. So um we are just a couple of minutes. If anyone has any final remarks or other things they even just want to talk about, please do so.

I mean, I just want to build on what you just did. Stacy. Um you know, about really creating wealth in other communities. I think one of the things that we're doing in post the planet is we have the Accelerator the Hub program, which is a program that was designed for underserved women specifically for that to take them from idea to an actual business, you know, understanding that, you know, they don't have access to certain tools or, you know, or they may not be able to afford to go to fancy business school and, you know, we're working with awesome partners, you know, you know, like G I GPA 10, you know, others just to make sure that we bring uh you know, the tools, you know, the access the systems and, and then of course, the leaders actually to coach, you know, we partner with all the, you know, amazing speakers you know, we had coo S CEO S CMO S, you know, people that have, I'll be honest, donated their time to help on marketing, on, on, on your business, on, on, on, you know, financials and how to raise funding and you know how to pull together your financial plan and just, just amazing different things.

We even have a session on well being, you know, we, we, we, we have a psychiatric common talks as well. Well being because, you know, when you have a new business, you can lose yourself. And it's a lot, you know, you're overwhelmed. And I think that's amazing work that post depart is doing, you know, post us, you know, obviously led by the incredible, you know, Ingrid. So I just wanted to mention that. So go check us out. I think Anna put the link on. If you haven't, if you have a great business idea, please apply if you want to be a volunteer, you know, we, we welcome you as well. And if you wanna donate, just support the support the course.

Oh, yeah, I absolutely believe. And I, I don't know how many people are willing to, to say this, that having a therapist or a therapy group or something along those lines is absolutely essential uh to kind of unlocking, unlocking yourself. Uh just, just have someone who isn't your friend or family to talk your crap to and figure out what's in your head and what's not, um, go

ahead. It's a really good thing that you happen to have a phd here on the phone then. I mean, you know, I, I've got you all covered. Um, I, you know, and I, I'll always say about that, like, because people ask me all the time, like, you know, you, you don't practice, like I, because I don't, and I'm like, well, that's because most people can't afford me, but my friends get it for free and we're all practicing psychology at all the time, right?

Like none of us have all of the answers in all of the situations. But we practice learning people and we practice learning ourselves and we practice the fields of expression. Um And one of the things that I love in the evolution of leadership, um and this is so important for all the women on is the real topic around. Finally, that empathy is a leadership trait. It's not just a female or a male trait. This is good leadership point blank period. The ability to see some through somebody's eyes, to hear through their ears, to experience through their heart or play a game in their cleats that is gonna allow you to be better to everyone around you. And it, it was like not long ago that I remember, especially in my masters for, you know, sports, like we read all the leadership books and it never talked about empathy. It was a very, you know, a very masculine form of leadership. And it's important to understand that your human capital is your most valuable investment in yourself. And in, in the teams that you build.

Last comment I wanted to uh to make here and I, I was looking at the chat things. Yes, so yes, just help each other like just five minutes. I know you, everyone is very busy but sometimes the five minutes, 30 minutes of your, your time and you connecting an a woman to another woman can change their life, can give them a job, can give them hope and, and have a very big impact. So I'm I'm very not to be with Doctor Jen Dian Au Lauren and Stacy today. Uh uh I learned so much by that only experience and it was just very en so if you have a chance also at your turn to give that back to someone else and we create a chain and we can create a better and more positive work for,

ask yourself every day. Are you acting in compassion? Right? And the actions that you do and the things that you see are you action and compassion? Awesome, so wonderful. Uh We are basically at time and I do want to uh just say an amazing, amazing group of completely uh different leaders in m many facets and different, different careers, different stages of careers. And yet the themes here ring true of quality leadership and just being yourself.

And bringing your whole self. So thank you again very much.